Friday, February 1, 2013

Huffington Post Comments 2/1/2012

First take note of yesterday's post.

Quotes:

Commenter 1: "The man [Bush] is a dolt."

Commenter 2: "We didn't go after Bush personally..."


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Me
Why is there such insistence to claim that anything a republican does comes from the "far right"?
lizt
Because the GOP has run out all the moderates and only has a far right base left.  
Me
Ha!

Before John McCain ran for president he was the democrats' favorite republican because of how often he sided with the democrats.

I stopped supporting the republicans when Mitt Romney, who signed socialized healthcare and gun control into law, became the GOP presidential nominee.
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Me
Why is there such insistence to claim that anything a republican does comes from the "far right"?
Thomas Pain
Because the lunatic fringe on the "far right" has pre-empted what used to be the Republican Party, and if anybody with more sense still thinks they're Republians, they aren't paying attention.
Me
"lunatic fringe"

Oooo, insults! I'll change my mind then!

Btw, using numbers from this website, the NRA is less of a "lunatic fringe" than gays.

4.2 million NRA members > 4 million gays

http://spootville.blogspot.com/2013/01/gays-more-of-ideological-fringe-than-nra.html
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strothersgirl03
The only sixty books Bush might have read, would have been picture books. The man is a dolt.

The President says he has done some skeet shooting when at Camp David.
Didn't say he did it all the time. Didn't claim to be an expert. Though they act like that's what he said.
After all the B.S. Bush said about WMD, etc. Then, your pathological candidate Romney, you should just shut up and be quiet.
This is the best you can do though with this President. Make a tempest in a teacup over any casual remark.
Republicans are pathetic.
Me
It must be sad having no actual arguments and needing to resort to name calling and insults instead.

Btw, Obamacare supporters: keep your laws off my body.
silverlaker71
Funny to see a conservative opposing laws that concern what choices people have about their bodies...
Me
Funny that you think that I am a conservative.

I'm more of a libertarian.

While we're on the subject of laws about "peoples' bodies"...

Dear Obamacare supporters,

Keep your laws off my body.

Sincerely,

Tim 
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strothersgirl03
The only sixty books Bush might have read, would have been picture books. The man is a dolt.

The President says he has done some skeet shooting when at Camp David.
Didn't say he did it all the time. Didn't claim to be an expert. Though they act like that's what he said.
After all the B.S. Bush said about WMD, etc. Then, your pathological candidate Romney, you should just shut up and be quiet.
This is the best you can do though with this President. Make a tempest in a teacup over any casual remark.
Republicans are pathetic.
Me
It must be sad having no actual arguments and needing to resort to name calling and insults instead.

Btw, Obamacare supporters: keep your laws off my body.
strothersgirl03
Funny coming from a supporter of the party that spends all their time focused on trivial things to insult the President with. Kind of pot and kettle isn't it?
As for Obama care....We'll gladly keep off your body.
Bet we're not the only ones.
;)  
Me
What makes you think that I support the republicans?  I didn't vote because both Romney and Obama signed socialized healthcare into law, and favor gun control.

As for "trivial things to insult the President with", I can find several articles, on this very website about republican plans to balance the budget.

Can you find me one example of a democratic plan to balance the budget, on this website?

Also, its been nearly four years since the Senate has passed any budget; which party has controlled the senate during this time?

"We'll gladly keep off your body.  Bet we're not the only ones."

Another insult?  I have a challenge for you (it may be difficult for you): write a post without insulting anyone.

Good luck.

How can you say, "keep your laws off my body" when it comes to abortion, and not when it comes to other healthcare laws?  Isn't that hypocritical?
strothersgirl03
The healthcare law is the same as having car insurance. It's not making you take a specific insurance, just have some.

People who don't end up being paid for by all the rest of us thru Medicaid. I, for one am tired of covering other peoples bills if I don't have to. It's just trying to make each person able to be responsible in some way for their own.

As to which party you support, when peole start off by saying Libs in a somewhat insulting way, it certainly appears to be a Republican backer.

And everyone should vote. It's not just a right and a privilege, but a responsibility as a citizen.
Don't like either Republican or Democrat, then find another choice.

As to budget, I agree. One should be presented.
To your defense of the Republicans (which, again, certainly sounds like your party, though I don't blame you for denying them, I would too) and them having a budget plan, they had lots of numbers that they either never released, or didn't really add up when they did.
In fact during the whole campaign they refused to give out details of most of their genius (they assured us) plans.

I do apologize for the insults. 
Me
Obamacare is not just about making sure that we have insurance.  If it were, the laws would read "all citizens must have health insurance coverage."  It also includes laws about what type of insurance that we are required to buy and there are many other rules about what must specifically be in the insurance.  For example: You cannot buy a high deductible, low premium insurance policy, becasue the insurance that we get must include coverage for lots of things that we may or may not want.  My health insurance is required to cover pregnancy, despite me being a guy and I am therefore unlikely to ever get pregnant.

Your second paragraph is interesting.  First the government decided that it wanted to pay for the healthcare of the poor with medicare and medicaid.  Many became unhappy with these programs and so the government decided that it wanted to fix the problem by adding yet another government program.

Why should we pay for the healthcare of those that don't have insurance?  Would you still support Obamacare if we had never had medicare and medicaid, and we had actual competition to lower healthcare costs and improve quality all along?  If we could buy healthcare from where ever we want, and could get the plan that we want? Like high deductible plans for the young an healthy?

Why should me voting be of importance to you?  If I don't vote, then yours counts for more.  I no longer want to vote and to contribute to a system where, no matter who I vote for, I will pay more in taxes and be less free.

I don't like the budgets proposed by the republicans because none of them will balance the budget inside of ten years.  But at least they are trying.

I don't see how the budget will ever be balanced, when spending on Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Unemployment alone exceeds the total revenues of the government.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals  (tables 1.1 & 3.1)

A few points in your last reply give me hope that you are willing to see the results and reconsider your thoughts if they are proven to be wrong.  This reply of mine is not a persuasive as I would like it to be.  I encourage you to look at the results of Obamacare over time.  When you see its flaws, consider if you still want to support it.  And don't blame republicans for its problems; not one voted for it.

My compliments on your lack of insults.  Insults are easy to throw around, but if you and I stop using them we will have slightly improved internet discourse.

This post from my blog may be of some interest: http://spootville.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-democrats-plan-for-balancing-budget.html


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